We believe that Jesus is the only one who can reconcile us to God. Lynne- Thanks for clearing that up. 8.) Spencer Smith on Instagram: "I was saved at 18 at an independent Christians under the grace economy give out thankfulness to God for what Christ has done for them, without any compulsion. Follow us on Pinterest: Im sorry Brother Irv, but you are wrong. The crucial point is not that they called themselves Baptists, but they followed the Bible as their sole authority for faith and practice. Really!! In 1995 the group reported 69,857 members and 670 congregations. He said from the pulpit, No one ever asked me if I was a Christian while out in public! Im thinking thats not a good thing. So what is the solution? It is an important part of the church. The bible says Let God be true and every man a liar So follow the Word and you will never be led astray. Also, when only what we do for Christ will last would include contributing to kingdom endeavors. https://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/hyles_effect.php. It holds high the saving Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, as revealed in the New Testament and an unwavering commitment to carrying out the Great Commission, that is, to teach everywhere the truth of Gods Word. Im calling into question yourreasoning as to why you are defending your belief about tithing. The way a Christian dresses should be governed by their love for Christ and other people, not by rules imposed by a religious authority to make one look righteous. We use our monetary resources alone. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); // Faith Baptist Church, Thomasville, GA - Videos Im looking forward to laughing at more of your comments. WHICH BIBLE YOU USE DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE! Actually what should have been first was the erroneous teaching that water baptism has anything at all to do with ones salvation, it does not! Most of the Anabaptists successors became the Mennonites, Amish and Quakers. Independent Baptist Church - Category KJV Churches They do not find support in the Bible for such a requirement. Northwest Bible Baptist Church is an old-fashioned, independent, fundamental Baptist church in Elgin, IL that believes, preaches, and practices the Bible. Exposing the Dangerous Teachings of the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Denomination, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception 2009-2020, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception. The entire point of Matthew 15 is Jesus telling the Pharisees that the ceremonial laws were no longer needed since the reason for them (the cleansing of sin) was replaced with Christs eventual death on the cross. When we arrive in heaven we are going to be surprised not only by who is there, but by who isnt there. As a matter of fact, you cannot be a member of a Calvary Chapel. This lasted only one Sunday however, and the following Sunday the doors were opened and services held in defiance of the order. But if your axe is based on tithing being practiced & encouraged (no one mandates & makes me give)then you have a axe with much of Christendom. This means that IFB churches do not look to creeds, confessions, or church councils to determine their doctrinal positions. True Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches uphold the purest teachings of the early church as revealed in the New Testament. Those who put in the effort will be greatly rewarded while those who neglect it do harm to their own souls. No church in the NT took that label. Both are true and one doesnt cancel out the other. Exposing the Dangerous Teachings and Traditions of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination Please scroll down to find a list of articles for your convenience. Alsoas in regargds to whom Jesus spoke to (they were Phairsees)I dont think that matters, the Phairsee just happened to be the ones constantlty questioning & troubling Himas well as were the Religious Leaders of that day whom example was probally looked at by others to follow (note Jesus: Do the things that they teach, Jesus said, But do not do the things that they do). The church I left about 2 years ago had very nasty tracts in the back of the church that said horrible things about other translations, calling them perversions and so forth and actually saying outright lies about other translations. The first is the United Church of Christ and secondly is the one I refer to, Independent Churches of Christ. It stands for devotion and a strict obedience to God and his commandments. People have a tendency to attempt to conceal their sin. In a biblical church the pastor is the overseers or leaders of the congregation. Even the Roman Catholic Church which boasts of his unbroken history cannot prove an unbroken line of churches earlier than the Third Century, and what Catholicism teaches today in no way resembles what the New Testament teaches or what the early churches believed and practiced. Still others rail about the same sin constantly, possibly out of their own guilt. https://www.victorybaptistharvey.com victorybaptistharvey@gmail.com. And to top it off you have very strange sayings that I have no idea what they mean, the last half of the verse at Acts 9:5 is an example It is hard for thee to kick against the pricks WHAT! In Europe, Protestant churches are state churches and supported to some degree by government imposed taxes. So wonderful to hear you are making progress in your spiritual journey. Tithing was never supposed to be for the maintenance of the house of God. In other words, when the Bible speaks, the words have a literal meaning and that it the meaning God intended. If your church does teach the following then watch out, you are probably in a manipulating extreme IFB church situation. Though many people including Websters Dictionary refers Baptists as being Protestants, it is not correct to refer to them as such or to lump all non-Catholic denominations in one group and label them Protestant. It was not the man who founded the church that was important, but the New Testament principles on which he founded this church. Soul liberty is a belief that everyone is responsible to God individually. All Independent Baptist Church The Road to Emmaus Baptist Church - Monaca, PA No Reviews Favorite Claimed? If I wanted to wear a sponge bob costume while leading worship I probably would not be allowed to do this in most Churches. Those soldiers they so casually curse gave their life so that these wannabe BLM or ANTIFA buttinskies could spew their hate at those who defended their freedoms. I have transferred schools and since then Ive had to find a new church. The true Independent Fundamental Baptists have no association or fellowship with these churches because they teach or practice things contrary to the New Testament. Thousands of Southern Baptist Churches didn't baptize a single convert last year. One of the best sources I have found concerning His nature, the Nature of Jesus, and the Holy Spirit is at the following link: Gayle Erwin does a wonderful teaching on the nature of God. I watched a man die last week. // ]]> Exposing the Dangerous Teachings of the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Denomination, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception 2009-2020, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception, 42. The Revolutionary War for some time slowed the growth of Baptist churches. The pastor's name is Kevin Draganac. It seems as if the preacher thinks it is within his ability to persuade people to accept Christ or to get people to witness or whatever. All youve done is pull some verses out of context and manipulated them to fit your point of view. Church Directory Sub-pages. Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Memoirs of a Recovering Fundamentalist, 55. Independent, Fundamental, King James, Mission Minded Our Service Times Are: Sunday Morning Worship -. There was no hierarchy in the churches he founded, which were patterned after the simple New Testament example. Its is true that many Baptists left the ranks of Protestant churches which were doctrinal unsound and apostate. HWY 3 NW. HARVEY ND 58341 (701) 324-4415 CH/HM. Hi Ahlayashabi Please forgive us if we have offended you in any way. Knolleys was under deep conviction of the need to preach the New Testament and follow its example as ones rule of faith. Lynne, It is the clergymen who are affiliated. They will not participate, on a church basis, or any outside function with churches which do not also strictly base their faith and practice on the New Testament. Ok how about some peace Blessed are the peacemakers I apologize for my abrasive writing style and did not purposely write to offend you, but make no mistake, someone can be dunked until they know every minnow by name, but that doesnt make them saved. The point is the name Baptist in the beginning was used to designate a true New Testament assembly that was biblically sound. Have a look at Matthew 15. Join us for lively old-fashioned singing, fellowship, (and yes!) I commented that some of the teen girls were dressed entirely innappropriately with tiny shorts, which were very immodest, so there certainly should be a standard for modesty. That is what saved believers have always believed, because that is what the New Testament which is Gods Word to man says. However, history does not record even one Anabaptist group or church becoming or founding a Baptist church. Baptists are not Protestants! 1 Timothy 5:17 Deception, 61. Christs death ushured in teh New Covenant where ceremonial law for the remission of sin is replaced with grace and mercy. Christians should be recognized by their love for Jesus and one another. However, let me strongly say there has always existed an unbroken line of churches who have not erred from the faith, and been true to the Bible, Gods Word. I met him about 25 years ago and our spirits bore witness that we are the sons of God. Later, he escaped and became a Christian missionary. That godly Deacon, so righteous on the outside, may have deep dark unrepentant sins no one know about. These five distinctive beliefs separate the true Baptists from other groups who have mistakenly taken the name Baptist and all non New Testament churches such as the Protestants. This is the biggest wrong teaching of the Churches of Christ, although you have lots of company in this wrong belief, it is still wrong teaching. I request any comment left to me is free of insults and vulgarities, please). For example inn Isle of Wight county in southeastern Virginia, Baptist preachers were taken to Nansamond River, nearly drowned by Episcopalians to show their contempt for Baptists beliefs in immersion and their rejection of infant Baptism. The heading of the website is true. I have to chuckle every time I think about a comment our former IFB pastor said about lifestyle evangelism as he puts it. But it is for these very reasons that I and millions of other Americans cant understand it. One can be feed, clothed , housed & grow up lost & will die but the Gospel offers Eternal Life! This is whats known as the Argumentum ad populum fallacy. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. To distinguish oneself from every other believer in the Body of Christ by either a doctrine, a practice, or a person is not scriptural, as the apostle Paul wrote to the Corinthians. The magistrates found their order was becoming unpopular and impossible to enforce so the church in the future was left unmolested. @ Bob & Greg, I cant say how much I agree with your posts. "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am . The Person of Jesus Christ: Jesus is 100% God and 100% man for all eternity. Knolleys was imprisoned many times and suffered at the hands of the State Church. They submit a request to become affiliated and then are supplied with a form to fill out. Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception - Exposing the He is light years away from the legalism of the last church, but holds tightly to the KJV (too tightly I think) but is not fanatical like the last pastor. Northwest bible baptist church, elgin, il 1) strict adherence to one version of the bible Dont misunderstand, I believe we are to preach and testify, but, from what I understand no ones blood will be on my hands if they wind up in Hell. It is often said that the Protestant Reformation had both a formal cause and a material cause. You are correct, I was surprised. It bases its belief in the New Testament teaching that every believer is a priest to himself, having full excess to God without the need to go through a church, church leader or priest. My question would be: When has anyone ever given 10% to GOD. It more often then none goes to the support building, supplies, salaries of a ministry under the leadership of usually a man., Excellent book on the subject is Should the Church Teach Tithing by Russell Kelly, http://www.truthforfree.com/files/PDF/REK-Tithing3.pdf. I would like to hear further explanation of the following: (I Corinthians 15:1-4) Further, if a person is truly saved and strictly follows the principles of the New Testament he will in a true sense be a Baptist whether he uses the name or not. Others have to a lesser degree compromised the Word of God by their teaching, practices and church polity trying to confront to popular religious tends. Modern church history is irrelevant, not only to our topic but to us in general. For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. Im surprised but shouldnt be by now that folks know so very little about their respective churches/traditions, most just sit in the pew and simply repeat what their pastor has told them, never checking and studying for themselves, what thus saith the Lord You act so surprised that I questioned you about which Church of Christ you were referring to, do yourself alittle favor and have a look at wikipedias lists of Churches of Christ First and foremost I wanted to make sure you werent referring to the The Church of Christ of Latter Day Saints which is a flat-out cult. Many men have suffered and given their fortunes and their lives to hold the name in truth. The Pharisees tithed on all their belongings. However, history is clear that in the beginning and into the 9th Century there were churches in Britain that rejected pedo-baptism, popery and other false doctrines of the Catholics. A response to Pastor James Meltons Questions for the KJV Critics, 69. Some formed new churches and called themselves Baptists to make it clear that they believed and followed the New Testament. However, John the Baptist was an Old Testament saint and the last Old Testament prophet (Matt. Assistant Pastor of Fellowship Baptist Church in Watertown, WI since 2017. @bob I am having a hard time figuring you out. I myself wear pants and outside of church most of the other women do too. Of all my favorite things to do now that Im out of that situation, is raise my hands and praise my precious Saviour when He stirs my heart. The charge recorded against him was that he broached and divulged new and dangerous opinions against the authority of the magistrates. I dont know what you are referring to by saying they dont use the O.T.? I dont know of any areas where their teachings are unbiblical or fundamental. To only teach from the New Testament and ignoring the old is not using the whole Word of God. -How do you determine whether or not a church teaches or practices false doctrine? We dress however we want, however, my Pastor chides me in good nature, because I frequently wear black clothing, but he is not being critical. I already addressed the 1st point regarding them being under Mosaic Law vs us if you read all youlll find them incl how Jesus spoke to similar crowd regarding what is Adultery, etcalso I already explained its not mandatory & no one says you better or must incl where I;m atI already explained how Jesus stated it was not to be undone while He expanded on what should have been done of which they failedif it was all about Mosaic law only they would probally I think be in compliance but Christ fulfilled & was teaching in consitency with that.