Thanks for dropping by and great news about an eventual homepage re-design. Despite offering models much cheaper (obviously) here than at TSquid, the clients prefer to buy on TSquid. Being between a rock (TS) and a hard place (CT) is a damn round the clock aggravation. I was a seller on Ts for very long time but never liked it, felt the 60% cut was unjust, the aggressive tactics towards competitors was bad, the self centeredness to keep artist away from own clients was wrong, and there are many more reasons why it never felt home to me. They then review the model and contact seller to fix it. Rank improvement compared to previous 3 months: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cgtrader.com +5,816, http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/turbosquid.com +1,026. I hope it goes well for cgtrader i really like this page :-). If I run the same test on Turbosquid or The3DStudio, I get almost exclusively original characters. Same for me, here. I'm just an end-user, one of the people you guys sell to, and the site is a large part of the issue, in multiple ways. After that response I selected all my models and took them offline. I think CGTrader just has to advertise itself more.. everything else will fall into place.. CG traders designer rank rep points. According to me ,in the future, more a 3DMarketplace will be open more it will take to success. There is a lamp that looks pretty cool (Gervasoni Bolla Floor light), and is supposedly free. Yes, CG Trader is the best now some bugs should be solved. Another point in favor cgtrader is that the royalties and buy a model possible in the payment system WebMoney. http://content.screencast.com/users/Lenwe/folders/Default/media/d7b76144-43db-4cbe-b27b-8ea42b3a7cb0/TurboSquid_Low_Sales.png A man can dream on :]. Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. My initial idea was that Ts had some clients that do not know anything outside of Ts. Sketchfab.com-------------------------------. TurboSquid is not a company that practices any kind of #FairBusiness, and there is many other cases from other people stating the same for different reasons: Thor (Rig) for Maya 15. TS beside ripping off taxes have a terrible support, I just was told in the civilized manner to F OFF, as I complained on an admin who kept my 3D model suspended for over 4 days. Chat with Support 24/7 Determining the optimal cost of the models is an important and difficult moment. bye for now and be well Will and Mr Data :) :]. Part of it is because they don't want to get scammed. Maybe they would understand that sellers can't be treated as slaves. With the support of a strong community we can get this thing going, don't worry about that. I can't download that lamp and see it's quality myself - so why would I purchase anything from the creator when I don't know if I'll be satisfied? rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, Realistic Human Body Basemesh - UVMapped - Rigged, CARTOON MAN AND WOMAN - TOON MOTHER AND FATHER, Worker Mining Safety Female - Bella - Harness, Naked Fitness Blonde Woman with Tied Hair. CGtrader has been growing steadily faster than Turbosquid for several years, that's why they are making this desperate "first blood" move asking their Investors for an extra cash to buy Sellers out against Marius and his people, with the promise that they will fuck you to death later once the war is won for the #SquidClan. I dare to bed that those hoe left CGtrader a year ago to sign some exclusive contract to get the money a little bit faster will regret that decision rely badly next year. I did not know about that. Over the years they have shown me that they really care about we think about the way things should be run and they have been adapting the website based on our combined ideas. Adult Female Jessy Rigged 3D Model 9. I don't know if Turbo Squid allows licence ownership to be transferred as i never got that far with them. I hope to find same courage someday ;-) Yes. Full collections of objects for 12 bucks is NOT okay. I agree with Captainmarlowe than one of the most important ideas to develop is more "education" for Sellers about all aspects involved in this business, and some kind of system that favors good and fair business practices and penalizes bad ones. That place is dead for me. They have a CheckMate program which gives you a higher percentage back from selling your model. I tested the CGTrader rigged character morphs for Daz3D studio from your commission and it works like a charm! At the moment i think its more a community of sellers and not so much of buyers. Searching for specific terms applying to a specific model, the results on Google are nearly on first page. Is the same for me as everyone else. I think this game can only be won by the best community building force and that is CGt. the success of CGTrader (and other sites as well) contributed to that. Some may look great for close ups but in a large environment scene or house setting when you have a lot of models to let's say show off the interior design of a model home you need to be very careful on poly count. We've been there, even being "Squid Guild exclusive" for some time to test the experience ourselves for real, and after more than 10 years with all our experiences and stats in hand we can state without a doubt that the business model offered by Turbosquid doesn't pay off in the mid-long term. I tested it with golden palace, clothing and various hair, other textures, they all worked fine August 22, 2022 at 6:03 am #1859211 Sabrina Participant Rank: @Goblyn Glad you enjoy it! The rumour that they can "borrow" models for check-out before buy to particularly trustworthy clients could also be true. They call that "3D Industry" on the download report .. it's rare but it's happend (one time for me) Let's give some time to time. I do agree with you regarding the search engine. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. 60% cut could be ok if that cost could be added to the product but price guarantee makes that impossible. Marius Kalytis (founder of this place) was a 3D artist himself and took notice of the questionable policy's the established market had adopted (leaving room to do it differently). That is why I like to use Apple as the example of preference. I have no problem with a site offering an option for seller/buyer to find quality print-ready products. when cgtrader change his frontpage i stop selling products bad :(. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. CGtrader is just better in all possible ways. Agree with every word. However, probably allot of us silently disagree on how we are treated as artist on places like Ts. They already sell 3D printers on amazon so it isn't a far stretch to just add the models in the suggested items that go with 3D printers. This would have probably be true for newcomers 5 years ago, but now that is different. But for the rest i do like the way cgtrader functions, more royalty rate, easy uploading and a community forum and job board. I agree that these two parts - CG and 3D printing should be split at least externally/ visually. Thingiverse remains the king for licensing, as you can transfer the licence within the site. So i need to try to make money with my models as long as possible, means as long it is not uploaded to anywhere else. Fact is, the best is where is can make the most sales. CGTrader vs Turbosquid | CGTrader I'm always in favor for more options and less restrictions. If you think life is hard as a buyer you should try modeling for a living Making any money is a truly miserable experience. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. 4. What would be your opinion? Often offer to buy the models in 1020 times more expensive than the price at which the model was exhibited for sale. @captainmarlowe Thanks a lot for a lot of valid points regarding search and categorization! This is inherently due to the fact that computers are still very bad when it comes to optimization processes, human brains are far more superior in sorting out things. The rewords for selling objects from others could for example be 1 CGcredit for tier 1, 2 for tier2, 3 for tier3, 4 for tier4 and so on. They should make more effort to advertise. I have noticed that a lot of artists are moving to Asia to find jobs where they are far better respected and paid what they are worth. This is from my own personal experience. Very soon there will be robots that can scan objects faster than any modeler can model them and then reproduce a print almost instantly in 10 to 30 years 3D jobs will be irrelevant but until then someone needs to really bring CGtrader to the big markets. To me this was a sign that people know about CGt and that users have at least two accounts. Well, it was more than one year ago that I last intervened on this thread. Basically giving your money to a tyrant of a service, not even free to set price on your own products accordingly. The last handful of successful high end 3D studios still buy those models because they know that the scenes have to be clean, geometry has no odd manifold or abnormal issues and the modelers have to jump through all kinds of hoops to ensure the quality of the model including providing high quality 360 renders. Most people say you get more sales at Turbosquid than any other 3D marketplace, so even if you get a much lower royalty % in the end you get more money, and while this is true up to a point (NOT x80 sales in any case), what most people don't realize is what happens IF your products are NOT in Turbosquid but you continue to sell in other marketplaces and have a bit of patience. Answer: IN my opinion Turbosquid is a great site for selling models. I remember that too! or do you prefer to do business with companies you trust and feel comfortable working with while knowing you are supporting a #FairBusiness model that in the future will revert in your own direct benefit? Just uploading on turbosquid is a pain in the butt. I see what you mean but I think it depends on how you are covering markets. ,,Checkmate,, from TS was actually invented by Jonathan Lloyd, the person who ruined Pixel SQUID :). Show more, By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, max, fbx, blend, uasset, tbscene and more, obj, fbx, unitypackage, prefab, mat and more. Lots of people buy posters to print and put on their walls especially students. Think about the best online stores today when people search for lamps on Amazon they will only find lamps in their search and that is why they keep buying on Amazon because it is a highly efficient and professional site where the buyers don't get lost or frustrated looking for what they want and can spend their time searching for the best quality product based on their budget. I know I personally would be Heh.. that's another topic but my top selling model is nude. This is why: So good luck "shopping elsewhere" dear customer, this is turning into a monopoly slaughterhouse and a 3D warzone. Realistic Female 3D Model. Regarding response time, i respond to my buyers within 10 minutes unless im in bed and someone from other part of the world is trying to reach me. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. They often would ask me to just send them a model through email and pay me through paypal like in the old days. Offering customers best prices on TurboSquid is mandatory for all artists publishing on TurboSquid. They recently changed their search engine over there and when you search for Free models it comes up with a few free ones and many more paid ones so from that perspective Turbosquid makes your life even harder lol. I like this site more, because, firstly, it has a much more pleasant and understandable interface, gives a higher percentage of the sale (on a TS, it looks more like a tip if you are not a member of their club), and generally it works more stable. Money in short term does not always pay of in long run. Is it the return guarantee if not satisfied? Yes, @limonadinis, I agree with you. NoneCG will be up for it. I'm a bit afraid there's always going to be issues that leaves this community divided, leaving CGpeople with a platform not able to live up to its full potential and leaving 3D print people with a platform not living up to its full potential either. Honestly, who wants to buy nudes anyway? CG Trader is easier to navigate, more stimulating perhaps than turbo squid. And CG Trader offers up to 94% royalty rate, where as Turbo Squid gives I believe 60% royalty rate CG Trader more open than Turbo Squid, and when registering, requires less personal information. Honestly I feel that it would be better to sell n bit slower that to have your models stolen. Rigged 3D Female Models | TurboSquid It is currently selling on the of TS is much higher than on CGT. Turbosquid has the traffic and so you get the sails. there is low quality traffic on cgtrader and also became too much focused on 3d printing models so gets affordable if u have many low quality printable models of cheap prices. I would even make the prediction that most of what will be left of Ts (following months) are the exclusive sellers, they will probably get very frustrated and come over here no matter what deals they made with Ts. i think they both have there place . Personally I don' t see anything offending on human body, everyone has one but I respect that it could be offending to someone (especially kids) so it should be censured. Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. In response to your comments kanga, I would like to add this to the conversation. I like the deposit proposal of flat_3d, but jet again it probably best be part of a repertoire of marketing tools the designer could choose from, not a global policy. Anybody else suffered the same blows to their sales in the same months as the web updates? google3 TurboSquid has stopped working in WM and lost some buyers in the middle East countries and Asia. So the staff there tries to work They had shoddy products but they created the illusion of having something amazing and that was better than a PC. I experienced this on other topics like the challenges, where CGT team took some ideas into consideration and applied some of them. They can present the model screenshots straight from their helpdesk and ensure the client is not being screwed? Please don't get impression that i'm trying to bash CGT, i don't i favor CGT over TS any day, but i want that they up their game in this concurent buisness. Others download beautiful jpeg or tiff files to set as their desktop wallpapers at the office. I don't know whether it would be possible to implement, but it would stop those who just wanted to download as many free models as possible. But i think its not only the responsability of cgtrader to turn this around. It is a shame that cg trader has so few people using it but turbosquid has been going for some time now and is very well established. https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/woman/female-hand-realistic https://www . Delhi Escort While i've heard that TS support isn't that great in practice and they always tend to exploit sellers, but impression that they're making on buyers must be really good. Turbosquid is butt ugly and greedy, I hope when CG gets bigger than TS, they don't end up the same way. I deleted my products here and joined sguild again, no reason for staying here. Ts just took royalty's from other items I've sold to get the money back. [url=http://www.google.com]google2[/url] I mean the good/bad rating left by buyers. just share your links (: I like both but prefer cgtrader all day. What, iterateCGI goos down? Gumroad. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. In my country you have to be adult to do bussines and legal stuff. Chocofur.com6. For me is more offending that kids are able to sell models here. I don't get paid until the 3rd, but I thought I'd download some things, look at their quality, fill up a cart and get prepared to purchase when the money comes around. There is plenty of "undercutters" everywhere and some short-sighted content developers that seem to only care about quick cash-grabs and most of the time doesn't even have enough data to state a valid opinion based on the contrast of facts over medium-long periods of time. This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. - Forcing people to choose a proper tagging to their objects so that we don't get scanned high poly print-ready objects in the way when we tick the "low-poly" filter, Hopefully this will start another interesting discussion . Guys really have the potential to screw greedy monopoly and earn some decent position on the market. And if the buyer sees one and the same model on CGT and on TS, then the price will choose on CGTrader [/quote] [quote]2. IMHO that is main area where CGT must up their game significantly. Site itself must have significant changes to make it more attractive and more convenient to buyers, especially big buyers. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment In fact my sells on TS are actually going down while they go up on CGt. Female Escorts in Mumbai, [link:http://www.google.com]your link text[/link] I used to hate how it would crash constantly or find that half way through the process even after saving a draft,suddenly the poly count numbers or other text, numbers etc suddenly got erased. I tried to contact the buyer several times with no response. A battle is going on right now, and some top sellers are going full #SquidClan with a custom deal from the Wisdoms: a 5-6 digit $ amount in instant cash now as an advance of a 2 year exclusivity deal, plus a boost of their royalties at the expense of all the other "non-top" sellers at Turbosquid that won't be getting any offer from Matt Wisdom. It is pretty difficult to find what you want but if you are only looking for free models then CGTrader's search engine is far better than Turbosquid. In my opinion, the worst Turbosquid is doing is minimizing the role and presence of the real content creators, being just a middleman reseller but trying to control all aspects of the product in a way that in the end the customer perceives it more like a "Turbosquid product" than a "Content-creator-X product". Imagine how much resorces and efforts are used by those clowns for this greedy Best price quality nonsense. I also think, as iterateCGI, the market control based on exclusivity will soon disappear. I really think that a "designer good practices charter" or something like that could help. To be honest, when I first found this site a few days ago I was really excited. Click here to submit yours . I could go on and on, it kept me puzzled. Think about your future: An important factor for many buyers is the possibility of cash transactions in the system WebMoney. Yes indeed! Typically, large corporate buyers, they find a way to contact me even and on TS and make an offer on a specific project. After all everyone can afford to put down 1 dollar so it is reasonable. If you're searching for a regular model, you have to click on the little icon "CG models", but nothing changes on the page when you do so. And i cannot take care for piracy or stolen models because the 3d stuff will go in piracy anyways, doensnt matter the platform it comes from. Here only I have doubts it would be fair to do do is a difference of 20..25% in the price of its models, which are intended for sale in the CGT and TS? Maybe there is something behind the scenes what you can't know or can't tell? Work directly with a 3D artist for your project. However, we have detected that you have set your prices back numerous times after we have made appropriate changes.